Posts by Island Man

315

Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

Island Man

Flat earth nonsense is not worthy of any response other than ridicule.

Ummm....I don't know...I mean it truly is nonsense but I think history has demonstrated that you can convince a lot of people to believe ridiculous nonsense when the intelligent people who know better choose to remain silent because they underestimate the level of ignorance in society and overestimate the intelligence of the masses. It's easy to lose touch with the reality of ignorance when you gain a lot of knowledge. It's easy to assume that everyone knows or should know the things you do. Those are dangerous assumptions because they foster the kind of silence that allows idiocracies to take over.

I don't think it should be looked at as being unworthy of response. It should be looked at as safeguarding the collective knowledge of reality from the pernicious inroads of pseudoscientific charlatans. Never underestimate the potency of stupidity. Never underestimate the credulity of the masses!

315

Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

Island Man

[photo of earth over the horizon of the moon's surface]
[photo of moon transiting earth, giving the appearance of being close to the earth]
Which NASA photo below is real?

They're both real. The first photo is taken from the surface of the moon. The second photo is taken a great distance away from both the moon and the earth. It's a great distance away but because the moon is transiting the earth and the photographer zoomed in, it gives the illusion of the moon being close to the earth.

121

Did man really go to the moon?

by atomant in

l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

Island Man

"...i tell you that the continents are not sized right on one vs the other, and so its overwhelming evidence that nasa doctors pictures and releases them as official satellite imagery"

What a very interesting point you make there, MrRoboto! Do you know why the relative sizes of the continents on NASA images don't seem to match the relative sizes shown on world maps? It's not because NASA has doctored the images. Quite the contrary! The NASA images are an accurate reflection of the actual sizes! It is the maps that have been doctored!

First of all, it is impossible to make a perfect projection of all the continents showing accurate relative sizes, on a map, while preserving continuous, uniform latitude and longitude lines. The reason is that you're transferring from a globe to a flat surface. If you attempt to make perfect relative sizes then you will have to break up the longitude lines and you get a map with huge gulfs of nothingness (imagine deflating a ball and trying to get a perfect continuous rectangle shape out of its skin). So for convenience, world maps stretch out the polar regions more to achieve a more uniform coordinate system and avoid breaks.

Secondly, this erroneous map projection system portrayed the northern countries - typically the location of the colonial powers - as being larger and more imposing than they actually are so for political reasons those projections became favored over a more accurate projection that would render them smaller and truer to actual reality.

In reality, Africa is larger than Russia, and Greenland isn't quite as big as it seems. NASA is showing the truth! That's precisely why their images don't match world maps. If they were really trying to cover up the truth they would have sought to make the NASA imagery match the erroneous maps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIID5FDi2JQ

315

Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

Island Man

To be fair, Flat Earthers are correct in saying the Bible teaches a flat earth. They're just wrong in assuming that the Bible is an unassailable authority of truth. The Bible simply espouses ancient cosmology which is rooted in myth and ignorance.

121

Did man really go to the moon?

by atomant in

l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

Island Man

Lt. Colonel in the Air Force Strategic Command in charge of a number of ICBM missile silos and security officer for his base.

How does this prove anything?

Yep, definitely an argument from authority fallacy.

But when you delve into both side and you understand the science involved it becomes clear that the conspiracists are in error about their claims. Other nations have visited the moon with unmanned spacecraft and have seen and photographed the remnants of the apollo missions. There's enough evidence to prove that we really did go to the moon.

121

Did man really go to the moon?

by atomant in

l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

Island Man

What kind of "research" did you do? Did you just look at a bunch of quack conspiracist videos alone? Or did you also look at the other videos where the nonsense said by the conspiracists are debunked?

Why are comments disabled on the video you posted? What does the poster not want being revealed by the comments of knowledgeable people? Don't you see the same pattern of information control exhibited by Watchtower?

121

Did man really go to the moon?

by atomant in

l have researched this subject and come to the conclusion that no we didn't.what do others think?.

Island Man

In the late 1960s the technology didn't exist to fake the kind of realistic footage that was released. It would have been - and was - easier to actually go to the moon, than to fake it so convincingly.

41

Ayahuasca The Soul Herb

by new boy in

i'm writing this tread for the people out there that are still looking for some kind of answers.

people who feel the void that any organized thought system can produce.

people who know there is more to this life than our daily routine which eventually will end, when we no longer exist.

Island Man

Oh come on! It's a mind altering drug. It doesn't uncover any truths that lie within. It just warps your thinking and gives you hallucinations. Our "reality" - as we perceive it - is a construct of the mind. Alter the mind with a drug and your perception of reality will obviously change. It's not truths being revealed it's just a medically induced warped perception of reality. At best, it might have some psychological and recreational benefits and maybe stoke your powers of creativity, but it's not some magical doorway to hidden truths. Enough with the mumbo-babel!

Ancient peoples actually believed that they were seeing the spirit world when they had drug-induced hallucinations. They thought hallucinogenic drugs were a doorway to the spirit realm. That's why the greek word for spiritism in the book of Revelation is the same word from which we get prefix pharma used in words pertaining to drugs. Today we know that these drugs are affecting the brain which in turn produces hallucinations. Revelation unwittingly reveals that "spiritism" is all in the mind - drug-altered minds!

315

Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

Island Man

Anyone living in 2017 with access to so much information and yet believes the earth is flat, is truly a stupid person - among the most stupid of persons. I don't think it's possible to get any dumber without being certifiably insane. Anyone who says he believes the earth is flat is either trolling or very stupid.

There is just so much scientific evidence proving the earth is spherical, not to mention the actual photographic evidence taken from space. The flat earth conspiracy theorists have to invent all manner of precarious, convoluted explanations to explain away the scientific evidence for a spherical earth. And no one flat-earth model explains away all the compelling evidence for a spherical earth. Flat earthism is basically a crazy contrarian cult for conspiracists.

84

Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

Island Man

There could be a kernel of truth to the story. Alcoholism is endemic in Bethel. Illicit sex happens at Bethel. Every other kind of vice happens at Bethel. Why wouldn't there be incidents of spirit-channelling happening at Bethel? Not that I believe they're actually speaking to any spirits. But look at JW culture - the belief in demons and the belief that dead anointed are in heaven revealing truths to the GB. Isn't it enough to inspire some bethelites to experiment?

I think that's all it is - a few adventurous bethelites experimenting - but this fact is being exaggerated and blown out of proportion and used to accuse the GB of being involved. It's the same with the SI (subliminal images). There were some actual SI in some of the older Watchtower publications like the Live Forever book. This was undoubtedly the work of pranksters in the art dept. But this fact has been blown out of proportion to the point of accusing the GB of being involved in systematically adding SI to the literature. It has gotten to the ridiculous level that many are putting mirror over Watchtower literature to uncover hidden demonic faces - I mean, come on people!